apple, facebook, google. pay less taxes than these oil companies, make more money than they'll ever make. why don't you go after big tech? >> what we're looking to do and i think the right thing to do is try to close the loopholes for everybody. that's what the president's talking about. >> you're talking about private jet owners. that's 32 people. >> that's good for television and things of that nature. >> that's true. >> it sounds like -- >> it's a handful of people. >> but it's small in comparison to the seriousness that we've got to deal with come just a few days. a week from today with sequestration. continuing resolution. we've got some big things we've got to debate. >> i maintain -- i come back to my original point. even though the process isn't great, across-the-board cuts, so what? the fact is a lot of businesses do that too. cutting spending is pro growth. and i think the republicans are missing an opportunity. they ought to couple these spending cuts with corporate tax reform that would help large